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Sanderson` · 05-03-2022, 08:11 AM

When Urchin got fatigued after haste, the game said due to low-health he returned "home" (but he's still in the party).

**Lava** · 05-03-2022, 08:19 AM

That's really strange. The script looks like this:

Code:
IF

!GlobalGT("L#UrchinWantsFreedom","GLOBAL",5)

!StoryModeOn()

HPLT(Myself,2)

!Global("L#UrchinDyingMessage","GLOBAL",1)

TookDamage()

THEN

RESPONSE #100

SetGlobal("L#UrchinDyingMessage","GLOBAL",1)

LeaveParty()

CreateVisualEffectObject("1WDCMDAM",Myself)

SetSequence(5)

DisplayStringNoName(Myself,@100)

DropInventory()

Wait(1)

ApplySpell(Myself,RESTORE_FULL_HEALTH)

Rest()

SetSequence(0)

MoveGlobal("L#UR01",Myself,[610.635])

END

I presume in your game Urchin doesn't end with 1 HP after haste, so... it's bizarre.

Sanderson` · 05-03-2022, 12:45 PM

Does he have a specific fatigue message? Maybe it is using the low-health message by default. To be honest this is my first time using mods.

After playing Icewind Dale a couple times I was missing the quests 'n' stuff from Baldur's Gate. I am going through this game again now with literally all your mods and a few rules changes from the Tweaks. I already have a lot of thoughts on the npcs but I'll hold off for a while and just post any potential bugs.

**Lava** · 05-03-2022, 07:26 PM

(05-03-2022, 12:45 PM)Sanderson` Wrote: Does he have a specific fatigue message? Maybe it is using the low-health message by default. To be honest this is my first time using mods.

After playing Icewind Dale a couple times I was missing the quests 'n' stuff from Baldur's Gate. I am going through this game again now with literally all your mods and a few rules changes from the Tweaks. I already have a lot of thoughts on the npcs but I'll hold off for a while and just post any potential bugs.

Well, this "fatigue" state is set by the spell itself, and the note you mentioned is displayed by a script, that's why I am slightly surprised and I am wondering if any tweak might have caused it.

As for the feedback on NPCs. Sure, I hope there were some bits you liked. I know they are not perfect and there are also some NPCs I am happier with and ones I think could be better. While they are already written and some got translated already, I probably won't change the content, but such notes can be helpful when creating new projects Smile

Still, I hope you found some of them at least "ok".

Sanderson` · 05-04-2022, 06:37 AM

Well I made a clean copy of the game and reinstalled Urchin, got to the mill and took him with me. Tried haste. I do not get the message and in fact see no fatigue message at all for him.

Here's a pic how it looks in the "megamod" and my weidu log is below. Dusky accidentally came last after I realized I forgot to install him and needed a companion in Easthaven (I almost missed Orra down on the docks.) My wild guess is this behavior somehow came from the voice packs? After I play some more I can do a little more testing. I'm pretty dumb about stuff like this, weidu makes it easy, I just like to play rpgs. Rolleyes

**Lava** · (This post was last modified: 05-04-2022, 02:52 PM by Lava.)

I think it's a really small incompatibility and you should just enjoy your run Smile

Perhaps I'll ask around for potential reasons at some point and you just have fun Smile

And again, I hope you'll have at least some more fun with these quests and NPCs Smile

A pity you didn't install IWD Crossmod Banter Pack - NPCs would talk to each other like in BG2 Smile

https://www.gibberlings3.net/mods/npcs/crossmod_iwd/
I think you're also missing Hommet, but I guess that the fact he's from a different game may repel some players.

Sanderson` · (This post was last modified: 05-04-2022, 06:12 PM by Sanderson`.)

(05-04-2022, 02:49 PM)Lava Wrote: I think it's a really small incompatibility and you should just enjoy your run Perhaps I'll ask around for potential reasons at some point and you just have fun
And again, I hope you'll have at least some more fun with these quests and NPCs A pity you didn't install IWD Crossmod Banter Pack - NPCs would talk to each other like in BG2 https://www.gibberlings3.net/mods/npcs/crossmod_iwd/
I think you're also missing Hommet, but I guess that the fact he's from a different game may repel some players.

I am definitely enjoying the new variety of npcs and quests. Almost into Wyrm's Tooth, and don't want to start being really picky until I'm done at least once. Does the Crossmod Banterpack do anything if I'm only using your NPCs? As far as Urchin goes, yeah, maybe trying to be helpful, but I realize there's very little you can do about something so obtuse. Please "look forward" to my brain-dump when I'm through! Smile

**Lava** · (This post was last modified: 05-04-2022, 06:19 PM by Lava.)

Yes, talks between my NPCs are also in that mod. Without the IWD Crossmod Banter Pack you won't get NPC-NPC talks, romance conflicts etc. It doesn't matter it's just my NPCs because even those need the introduction of the banter system provided by IWD CBP Smile

And they are still different mods. IWD CBP also gets rid of the problem of installation order. It's always installed as the last mod, so the mod detects which NPCs you have in your game and updates them.

Sanderson` · 05-04-2022, 08:21 PM

Well since you said that, I installed the cross-banter mod and continued with my savegame. Witnessed a few conversations like L'anna vs Dusky. I like these conversations between NPCs more than conversations with Player 1, just because it makes the party feel more alive. Since this is the Urchin thread I must say there was a conversation with L'anna and Urchin at the Isle of the Dead which ended in a conversation tree that was something like "THIS DATA IS NOT LOADED" and the conversation ended. I realize now this is like the fatigue message and should be blamed on either install order, or incompatibility, etc.

**Lava** · 05-04-2022, 09:10 PM

I will look at the message at some point, there is a chance it's something else.
Anyway, enjoy the rest of your run Smile