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sheirlyndrea · (This post was last modified: 07-16-2023, 01:32 PM by sheirlyndrea.)

Hello, I am starting the quests in the bridge district and I have a problem with a npc which gives a quest on the platform next to Vully's house and with a weird name and illegible quest".

I reinstalled all the mods so now he has his name whose was "Angry man" and I can read his quest, but it still bugs in the quest log, that only say white golem.

Lava advised me not to reinstall mods with a game in progress, but it's too late Rolleyes

, and I just realized that I have an other npc which bug Sad

There is a gnome next to the fountain in front of the Council of Six building, with a weird name and an illegible quest too Confused

I don't know what mod it is.

Perhaps i have too much mods and my game is in french

**Lava** · 07-16-2023, 02:17 PM

Hey again!

The problem with reinstallation is kinda impossible to fix. To tell you how these things work: all the game strings (text) are added to one huge file called dialog.tlk and are numbered. It's the same for talks, item names, descriptions, character names, et cetera. That data is also stored in your savegames. So, your game knows character X's name is (for example) line #54355 and the first line of talk Y is #55543, and so on.

Creature names, sound sets (and some others) are saved in your game. So, when you run your savegame on a different setup, the savegame tries to use the same references so it assumes character X's name is still line #54355, BUT on the new setup, it's actually #54357. And boom: you end up with a character with a bizarre name.

Plus, there is some other stuff stored in your save game -- like the world map, so it (may or may not, kinda depends on your luck) gets scrambled.

The question is why your first bug happened. Just to make sure there isn't anything wrong with the Angry Man's quest, I checked it while writing this reply: the name, dialogue, and journal entry worked fine.

(07-16-2023, 01:27 PM)sheirlyndrea Wrote: Perhaps i have too much mods and my game is in french

That shouldn't be a problem. You may, however, want to provide weidu.log information so we knew what you installed and in what order. It's in your main game directory Smile

Just use the spoiler tags to prevent the post from being insanely long Smile

you do that by using this:

Code:
[spoiler] [/spoiler]

Sadly, since you reinstalled everything you can: a) continue playing and get bugs like that; b) reinstall mods and start a new brand new game.
Sorry, but I I don't think there are any other options at this point... I may be wrong, perhaps someone will come here with better ideas, but I don't have any.

sheirlyndrea · (This post was last modified: 07-16-2023, 03:45 PM by sheirlyndrea.)

Ok so i post weidu.log well, i think Angry man and this quest were repaired cause i re install the mod and load a game before i go to the bridge district

Anyway love your mods

**Lava** · (This post was last modified: 07-16-2023, 04:22 PM by Lava.)

(07-16-2023, 03:41 PM)sheirlyndrea Wrote: well, i think Angry man and this quest were repaired cause i re install the mod and load a game before i go to the bridge district

Well, you can continue and hope it's going to work well...

What I noticed is that your installation order is a bit wrong.

As it was noted in the G3 thread:

Quote:Sorting out the install order
Since WeiDU mods can not only change game resources, but content from other mods, it becomes important to resolve an installation order before you begin. A good general guideline is as follows:

1. Special: If you're modding a game with Siege of Dragonspear from Steam or GOG, you must run a mod called DLC Merger on your game before you can install any other WeiDU-based mod. Some mods may recommend a program named ModMerge instead, but DLC Merger is the preferred method these days.
2. Fixes. Many mods create new resources from the existing ones, so getting in the fixes early prevents errors in the original files from propagating to mod files. Examples include the BG2 Fixpack or the IWD Fixpack.
3. Atypical Content Mods. This category is a little hard to describe. There are some mods that don't really interact much with other mods (e.g. Ace's Alternate Soundtrack) or which are designed to only alter original game files (e.g. Improved BAMs) without worrying about modded content. Because of how WeiDU handles and preserves installation order, the earlier you can place mods like this the easier it will make any future mod updates to your installation. This is also a pretty good place for item/store mods, especially if they're stable and unlikely to be updated often.
4. Quests/Other Content. Once you've got a solid base, it's time to start adding actual content. Examples include Ascension or BG Quests and Encounters.
5. NPCs. NPCs should go after quests simply because some NPCs will detect modded quest content and provide interaction with it. You may find a mod NPC commenting on a mod quest, but only if the NPC follows the quest in the installation order. Examples include Mur'Neth and Amber.
6. Tweak mods/tactical mods. Most in this category are written to be universal, i.e. they'll freely change items/creatures/scripts/etc. from other mods, but they can only do so if those resources are present when they're installed. This is why just about every tweak mod suggests it goes last in the install order. Examples include Sword Coast Stratagems and Tweaks Anthology.

Within each category, another good rule of thumb is to go with older mods first.
There are, of course, all sorts of exceptions, or mods that really don't fall cleanly into a category. The readmes are there for a reason, and most modders try to help players avoid issues with install recommendations and compatibility concerns. If a mod has a forum, it’s also a great resource to learn about where it should go in the install order.
Once you have an order in mind, feel free to ask other players about it.

Hope that it will help you to compose your next setup Smile

There are also some newer mods like "In Love, Undeath" you may want to check out if you want to enjoy quest mods, as well as Acifer's Dark Tidings. Plus, the new NPCs like Fyalvara or Lhannd. Your installation isn't big, you may just need to use the order from the quote. And, if the future, there will be more mods you may like to check out, but I also need some time to work on them a bit more.

And thanks for your kind words! Heart

sheirlyndrea · 07-16-2023, 05:23 PM

oh thank you Heart

sheirlyndrea · 07-17-2023, 02:11 PM

Do you think if I reinstall the mods in the correct order and delete my saves and start a new game it will be ok, or is it better that I delete everything and install a clean version of the game?

Graion Dilach · 07-17-2023, 03:21 PM

It's better if you restart from scratch, just to be safe.